Music and Movies of Oz

Music and Movies of Oz

Posted on Dec 27th, 2008 by Marmalade : Gaia Child Marmalade
I was just watching some of The Wizard of Oz again.  For some reason, I never think of it as a musical.  It does have music, but the songs seem more spread out than a typical musical.  Watching it again I was as impressed as ever. 

Much of it touches upon favorite tropes in our culture.  I wonder why our culture has such an obsession about young girl characters that are excitable and have wild imaginations.  LIke Anne of Green Gables, she is raised by an older couple who aren’t her parents and she gets in trouble with a crotchety old neighbor lady.

There have been many fictional works (both books and movies) spawned off of the original books.  In particular, I enjoyed the movie Return to Oz and the tv series Tin Man.  I also just watched the musical Wicked and thought it well done.

Of course, when The Wizard of Oz is mentioned Judy Garland immediately comes to mind.  She does a good version of Somewhere Over the Rainbow, but here is my favorite version.

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Comedy Horror Musicals

I’ll sort of keep with the theme of my recent blogs, but lighten up the mood a bit.  One thing I’ve come to enjoy more and more is a good musical.  It was either The Rocky Horror Picture Show or Jesus Christ Superstar that first made me fall in love with musicals.  Even so, I still don’t like the classic musicals to any great degree.

I’m glad that the musical is getting a modernized revival, but there is a particular category of musical that is quite surprising in its popularity.  The category I speak of is the comedy horror musical.  Its about as lighthearted and silly as horror can get and still vaguely be called horror.

Maybe it isn’t surprising at all when considering the modern musical’s origin in opera.  There are plenty of tragic operas, but as far as I know operas aren’t known for their comedy.  In my meager research, it seems that the comedy horror musical was an American invention, and The Rocky Horror Picture Show might’ve been the first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocky_Horror_Picture_Show

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073629/

http://www.rockyhorror.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Shop_of_Horrors_(film)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091419/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal!_The_Musical

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115819/

http://www.cannibalthemusical.net/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweeney_Todd:_The_Demon_Barber_of_Fleet_Street_(2007_film)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408236/

http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo!_The_Genetic_Opera

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0963194/

http://www.repo-opera.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_the_Paradise

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071994/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Frankenstein_(musical)

http://www.youngfrankensteinthemusical.com/

http://www.youngfrankensteinthemusical.com/

http://www.evildeadthemusical.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poultrygeist:_Night_of_the_Chicken_Dead

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http://www.poultrygeistmovie.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_More,_with_Feeling_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0533466/

http://www.buffymusical.com/

One other that might be added is Wicked: The Musical. But I’m not sure as I’ve never watched it. Even though its about the Wicked Witch of Oz, it sounds more like a tragic romance story.

Then again, most of the musicals I put in my blog aren’t very horrific. Cannibal hasfew scenes ofpartially realistic ripping and eating of flesh, but its pretty silly for the most part. Sweeney Todd might be the least funny of these, but its definitely over-the-top… althoughmost horror movies are over-the-top I guess. I’ve never watched all of Repo. It looks like it could get a bit graphic.

By the way, you can watch a recording of the entire live performance of Wicked. Its on Youtube and you’ll find it at the link I provided in my previous comment. I just watched it and it doesn’t fit with the others. There is a Wicked Witch, but she is portrayed very sympathetically. I would recommend it thouhbecause it shows what happened before Dorothy ever visited Oz.

Favorite Spiritual Songs

Favorite Spiritual Songs

Posted on Dec 21st, 2008 by Marmalade : Gaia Child Marmalade
 
 
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Marmalade said

I posted these songs in response to Nicoles thread in the God Pod.

Favourite Spiritual Music

In that thread, I also linked to these three chants.

Trance Tara by Jonathan Goldman

Medicine Buddha by Jonathan Goldman

Hare Krishna by Vaiayasaki Dasa

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Centria said

Thanks for posting these, Mr. Ben. I will listen to some of them. (some of them I already know and they’re great.)

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Marmalade said

You’re welcome. Which ones do you already know? I was already familiar with these songs, but I decided to pick some versions I hadn’t heard before.

I think I might’ve heard Johnny Cash sing gospel before, but I’m pretty sure I’ve never heard him sing I’ll fly away. I’m not big into choirs, but as backup singers for Johnny Cash it works out quite well.

BTW the Jerry Garcia video has its embedding disabled. If you just double-click on it, you’ll be brought directly to the video on Youtube. He has a better version of this song on The Pizza Tapes album.

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Centria said

I’ve loved “I don’t know how to love him” since first hearing it in the 60’s or 70’s at our church. In fact, can probably sing you (even though off-key) the whole Jesus Christ Superstar album. Also the Johnny Cash I’ll Fly Away. Maybe some of the others, but will need to click to find out! (but need time to do that…)

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Nicole said Dec 21, 2008, 10:39 AM:

  Can be Christmas music, or other music that makes your spirit soar or pause in awe…Nordic Chamber Choir – O Magnum Mysterium (M. Lauridsen)

Love and light,

Nicole 

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Marmalade said Dec 21, 2008, 7:45 PM:

  In the specific terms of spirituality, I do enjoy something like Jesus Christ Supestar… and also I love the sweet melancholy sounds of some of the more religious mountain ballads… likewise with certain gospel songs. Less directly in terms of spirituality, I find that any emotionally-moving music can put me in a spiritual mood.  For instance, I sense that at the bottom of almost any love song is the longing for that which is beyond us… which for me implies God… especially songs about frustrated love because no love in this world can ultimately satisfy us.

On the other hand, most music that is intended as religious usually doesn’t inpire much of a spiritual sense in me.

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Nicole said Dec 21, 2008, 8:00 PM:

 

I Don’t Know How to Love Him

 

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Marmalade said Dec 21, 2008, 8:03 PM:

  Yep, that is the one.  I’m trying to think of some more specific examples.  I’ll see if anything comes to mind.  I know there are a bunch of spiritual mountain ballads that are utterly beautiful, but offhand I can’t think of the name of any. 

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Marmalade said Dec 21, 2008, 11:03 PM:

  Okay, here ya go.  I collected together some favorite songs of mine that inspire a sense of the spiritual for me.  You can find them in my most recent blog.Favorite Spiritual Songs 

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arpita [no longer around] said Dec 21, 2008, 11:04 PM:

  …don’t have a favorite i don’t think… but i like these a lothttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfSV_k3MhCw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADrEUUxniAw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5wxOhlPig&feature=related 

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Marmalade said Dec 22, 2008, 12:08 AM:

  arpita – I liked the second one, but I loved the third.  That is one of my most favorite mantras.  There is an interesting cd by Jonathan Goldman called Trance Tara.  I couldn’t find it n Youtube, but here it is on Last FM.  Even my friend who doesn’t like mantras enjoyed that cd.  Another interesting cd by Goldman is Medicine Buddha. Its funny I hadn’t thought of mantras when I saw this thread.  I guess I don’t normally think of mantras as music, but essentially they are.  My first experience with mantras I believe was with a group of Hare Krishnas when my brother was interested in that religion.  The Hare Krishnas always seemed like nice people to me, and for that reason I have fond memries of their very well known mantra.

My favorite version of it comes from a cd titled Kirtan Rasa by Vaiayasaki Dasa.  Some of his Hare Krishna chanting can be found in this video.  I enjoy his passion.

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Nicole said Dec 22, 2008, 10:42 AM:

  Marmalade, I’m listening to your selection. Really loving Down to the River to Pray – what a pure lovely voice, wonderful harmonisation and very heartfelt too.For some reason the embeding was disabled on Man of Constant Sorrow (was that it?)

How about O Brother, Where Art Thou – I’ll Fly Away? (I was listening to the Soggy Bottom Boys version of Constant Sorrow and was led there…  though I see you have the Johnny Cash version with the Baptist Catholic Methodist – ? wow! 🙂 – Choir)

There is something really heart-warming about this music, isn’t there?

Thanks so much!

Love,

Nicole 

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Marmalade said Dec 22, 2008, 11:41 AM:

  Of all those songs, Down to the River to Pray might be the one I enjoy the most.  However, I do love Let the Mystery Be. Iris Dement is on the top of my list of favorite singers.Yeah, that is the version of Man of Constant Sorrow that wouldn’t embed.  There is a shorcut you can use when that happens.  If you double-click, it will bring you directly to the video on Youtube.  Jerry Garcia has a version that I like more which is on The Pizza Tapes album.  There are many good renditions of this song.

I did have in mind the movie O Brother, Where Art Thou.  All the songs in that movie are quite lovely.  I chose to share the Johnny Cash version because I like his voice.  I’d heard he’d done gospel, but I think that might be the first time I heard him sing I’ll Fly Away.

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Nicole said Dec 22, 2008, 10:18 AM:

  arpita, I really liked the second one, which is a Bogoroditsye Dyevo, the Russian Orthodox version of Ave Maria – other settings I enjoy very much are (all three have such a totally different interpretation eh? you’d never know it’s the same prayer) -Russian church music is all a cappella, so lovely…

Bogorodice, Djevo, radujsja / Sergej Rahmanjinov

(though my favourite part of Rachmaninoff’s Vespers is the Nunc Dimittis – Nyne Otpushchaeshi – Rachmaninov Vespers)

Bogoróditse Djévo (Arvo Pärt )

The Tara Mantra is very beautiful as well, very moving

Thank you so much! Now, on to Marmalade’s music, this should be fun!

Peace,

Nicole 

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arpita [no longer around] said Dec 22, 2008, 10:58 AM:

  hi Nicole
thanks for linking the Rachmoninoff… actually i was going to link that originally – for Boroditse devo … (since the choir i belong to has been singing that – and it is so beautiful … but when i found the chant – it was so sublimely simple that i posted that instead… 

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Nicole said Dec 22, 2008, 12:41 PM:

  Your choir is doing the Rachmaninoff, arpita? Wonderful! I think of all the music I have sung in choirs over the years, it was his Vespers that absorbed me the most completely (even more than Handel’s Messiah or Brahm’s Requiem) – even years later, I find myself completely under its spell without notice.Marmalade, I agree, all the music in Brother Where Art Thou is great. It was really that movie that helped me get as fond of bluegrass as I am now.

Love,

Nicole 

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nimrod [no longer around] said Dec 22, 2008, 1:51 PM:

  Brahms’ German RequiemMy partner and I were vacationing in Zurich.  It started to rain one day while we were out strolling.  We decided to duck into a nearby church to get away from the downpour.  As we opened the doors, the sound of what turned out to be a 40-voice choir rehearsing the Requiem poured out onto the street.  Even though I was swept away by the beauty of the music and my tear ducts were clamoring for attention, I remained a dry-eyed manly little fellow. 

They went on to rehearse the next piece for their concert which turned out to be –of all things!–that chestnut of all choruses, the Robert Shaw Chorale setting of “Battle Hymn of the Republic.”  That’s when the water works erupted.  I guess I was a little more homesick that I realized! 

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Nicole said Dec 23, 2008, 10:22 AM:

  This is a glorious work, nimrod, full of light. Like Faure’s Requiem, there is nothing dark or depressing about Brahm’s German Requiem, though it has some very intense and thrilling interpretations of the texts from Hebrews 13, 1 Corinthians 15 and Revelation 4 (original German below).My favourite movement in this regard is #6. It was very exciting to sing in concert, a lot like being on a rollercoaster or in the midst of a waterfall 🙂

I like this video because it shows the translation of the words as they are singing. Best of all, Bryn Terfel is the baritone!

Brahms Requiem – Mvt. 6, part 1
Brahms Requiem – Mvt. 6, part 2

Denn wir haben hie keine bleibende Statt, sondern die zuknftige suchen wir.
Ebr. 13,14.

Siehe, ich sage euch ein Geheimnis: Wir werden nicht alle entschlafen, wir werden aber alle verwandelt werden; und dasselbige pltzlich, in einem Augenblick, zu der Zeit der letzten Posaune. Denn es wird die Posaune schallen, und die Toten werden auferstehen unverweslich, und wir werden verwandelt werden. Dann wird erfllet werden das Wort, das geschrieben steht: Der Tod ist verschlungen in den Sieg. Tod, wo ist dein Stachel? Hlle, wo ist dein Sieg?
l. Korinther 15, 51-55.

Herr, du bist wrdig zu nehmen Preis und Ehre und Kraft, denn du hast alle Dinge geschaffen, und durch deinen Willen haben sie das Wesen und sind geschaffen.
Off. Joh. 4,11.  

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Alluvja said Jan 27, 2009, 2:45 PM:

  I just only now found this thread.
Some wonderful music.
I  (have) Brahms requiem, I’ve heard Faurés but I’m not so knowledgeable about it as you seem to be.
Great thread Nicole, thxs.
 
Edited PS:  I did post this under your relevant post of  December and linked it to reply to post , so I’m not quite sure why it appears here and not under the appropriate post. 

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Mr. said Dec 24, 2008, 1:13 AM:

  I like music that is spiritual in flavor and sentiment but not necessarily religious per sey. Joan Osborne’s “What If God Were One of Us? or U2’s “In The Name Of Love” are some pop music examples. I have also written stuff that is spiritual without being religious. 

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Marmalade said Dec 24, 2008, 2:08 AM:

  That is the way I am, Mr.  I wonder why some people are moved by “religious” music and some aren’t.  I wonder if it has to do with what we experience as children or at other pivotal times of life.  I grew up in small alternative churches that didn’t offer much in the way of traditional choral music.  I pobably heard more folk-type religious music.  It also probably helps that I spent years living in South and North Carolina.Marm 

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Mr. said Dec 25, 2008, 11:42 AM:

       Marmalade,     I think thatwhat you know from your past and what you grew up with plays a part. I also think that what you are exposed to as you grow to be your ownperson does as well. I am familiar with Gospel  music having listened to a lot of Soul music and its roots when I was younger. I am also familiar with Choral music having been in the school choir during elementary and middle school before puberty changed my voice.

     I do like some Gospel and Choral music. I like “Oh Happy Day” for Gospel and “The Grapes of Wrath”, Swing Low Sweet Chariot” and “Amazing Grace” for Choral. I like particular songs more than particular artists. I write music in various genres as well.

     It may just be me but I believe that all music is spiritual in nature. It is emotion channeled. Hearing a great song for the first time is akin to a deeply moving religious experience. 

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Ua said Dec 27, 2008, 11:24 AM:

  From a very young age music was the door in which the spirit walked through to open my soul.  From Led Zepplin Houses of the Holy to TOOL; vibrations have centered me, sent me, questioned me, shown me my infinite oneness and my complete isolation in this bag of cells. When my daughter was very young maybe five or six months the Dali Lama was in San Diego.  A friend owned a herb store and was very involved with the Free Tibet movement, because of this she had seven of the Dali Lama’s monks staying at her house.  They all came by the store to give her thanks while we were visiting.  They asked if they could chant welcome to my daughter.  I held Chloe while the monks circled us and began chanting.  Their voices…. I can’t put into words what it’s like to stand in the center of that vibration.  By far musically and spiritually I have never experienced anything like that.  Almost like every cell in my body had ears and heard the chant in a different voice but at the same time in perfect unison.  

I wish I could post each of these songs for your  pleasure but alas I lack the skills.  I know most of these songs are on youtube so please enjoy…….

1) Ben Harper with The Blind Boys of Alabama- Satisfied Mind (actually check out the whole album, There Will Be A Light)

2) Ben Harper- With My Own Two Hands

3) Bob Marley- Misty Morning, Kaya, Rasataman Chant…. OK I might as well just say…. Bob… Nuff said 🙂

4) Grateful Dead- Ripple

5) Jimmy Cliff- Many Rivers to Cross

6) Ray Charles & Willie Nelson- A Very Good Year (From the Genius Loves Company album)  
7) Down to the River to Pray (Yup, that’s a good one! Oh Brother Where Art Thou truly a great soundtrack.  Voices of Angels for sure) 
8) Pearl Jam- Insignificance

9) Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan & Eddie Vedder- The Long Road (Please listen to this song!  Ali Khan has a voice that is truly inspired and even though I didn’t know what he was saying for the longest time this song moved me to tears and when my grandfather died I must have played this song a hundred times.)

I hope you enjoy these songs as much as I do and look foward to playing your selections also.  

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Nicole said Dec 27, 2008, 5:18 PM:

  Ua, Mr and Marmalade, thanks for keeping the thread warm…Joan Osborne – One of Us

U2 Pride (in the Name of Love)

Ben HarperSatisfied mind

Bob Marley Misty Morning

Bob MarleyKaya

Bob Marley Rastaman Chant

Grateful DeadRipple

Jimmy CliffMany Rivers To Cross

Pearl JamInsignificance

Nusrat fateh ali Khan & Eddie Vedder – The Long Road

Love you muchly (especially wonderful to have you back Ua!),

Nicole 

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Ua said Dec 29, 2008, 9:06 PM:

  Yea… Links!  Thank you!!!   Nicole, I never really left; just observed for awhile.  I love seeing how these conversations wander, twist, dance and evolve.  Seeds growing into trees harvesting soul food for sure.  Sometimes the greatest lesson for myself is to simply watch others come to understandings… It gives me faith in all of us.  

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Nicole said Dec 30, 2008, 8:11 AM:

  Observing is good, Ua, yes, I love the way you put it,Hugs,

Nicole 

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Jenny said Jan 26, 2009, 4:57 AM:

  http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=d63COahIpVM 

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Taikunping said Jan 26, 2009, 5:20 AM:

  At present my favourite piece of music is “You Raise me UP”- Josh Groban It changes from time to time, another is Return to Innocence by Enigma and another is “Lifted” on the album Ocean drive by the Lighthouse Family.  

Mantras by Hein Braat is good and very uplifting too 

Love and light

Tai 

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Jenny said Jan 26, 2009, 5:55 AM:

  Ha Tai, are we on the same wavelength? we post in same place again same time 

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Jenny said Jan 26, 2009, 5:52 AM:

  forgot to say that last one is by Deva Premal 

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Mirenithil said Jan 26, 2009, 5:40 AM:

  A lot of Hawaiian music. A lot of it’s so joyful and uplifting; a lot more of it is mellow and relaxing. One of my favorite groups is named Hapa, and their song Ka Uluwehi O Ke Kai is one of the joyful ones entirely in Hawaiian. The instrumental-only track Justin’s Lullabye by the same band is one of the most soothing things I have ever heard and was an immense comfort to me in a time of need two years ago. Keali’i Reichel also has a lot of stuff that’s wonderful. Another song that makes me want to get up and dance with the world is “Live A Little” by the Hawaiian Style Band, as is “Spread A Little Aloha (Around the world)” by the Mana’o Company. I also have to mention Bruddah Iz’s (Israel Kamakawiwo’ole) version of “Somewhere Over the Rainbow.” It’s as pure a song of the joy of living and thanksgiving as I’ve ever heard without being explicitly religious. 

Rod Stewart also has songs that make me want to just get up and dance for the joy of living (and that, to me, is spiritual.) Particularly “Rhythm of my Heart”. “Forever Young” is a blessing set to music. 

Bach, Vivaldi, and the like also strike me as deeply spiritual, though. 

And, yes, got to love “Return to Innocence” by Enigma. Wow, that one’s amazing. 

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Taikunping said Jan 26, 2009, 5:55 AM:

  The first time I heard Return to Innocence I went tingly all over, you could say it was “one of those moments!”  I had a similar reaction to Phil Collins “Somthing in the Air Tonight” – long time ago now. 

New Age music is great especially “And So to Dream” by Mike Rowland. 

Somewhere over the Rainbow is one of those special songs….. 

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Taikunping said Jan 26, 2009, 5:59 AM:

  I’ve been thinking for a while to post here, yes Jenny we did it again! I love music all kinds another favourite is a version of Pachelbel Canon, arranged by Kevin Kendle – Album Pure Peace – New World Music. 

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Jenny said Jan 26, 2009, 6:02 AM:

  Pachelbels is one of my alltime favourites. My son Rowen knew I loved it and had it played at his wedding which was really sweet and when it started playing he looked across at me to see what my reaction would be. I also love a few of Phil Collins. I’ll fish around in Youtube and find my favourite. Groovy kind of love 

It has a really special meaning for me. Back in 1988 when I was very unhappy it kept coming on the radio and when I turned on the radio and when I walked into shops it would be playing every time I felt really down and I took it to mean there is a person on the other side of this existance that loves me unconditionally and it felt like a promise that someone special would be there for me. 

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uCexfCIC79M 

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Taikunping said Jan 26, 2009, 6:11 AM:

  Must have been a great day Jen. Vivaldi – the 4 Seasons is a good one too. 

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Jenny said Jan 26, 2009, 6:16 AM:

  Yea Yes Vivaldi too yes and it was a great day 

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Jenny said Jan 26, 2009, 6:17 AM:

  When I used to massage I always played Enya and some other beautiful nature music 

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Jenny said Jan 26, 2009, 6:23 AM:

  Hows this one for awesome though   …Carmina Burana by Carl Orff http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=C0i9uWNDvDg 

In Canberra one year it was turned into a huge outdoor opera with huge fires and hundreds of performers from children to old people all using the fire theme in candles and fire sticks. held down near the lake in the middle of winter. . Stunning it was. Fire operas were held 3 years running and we went to them all and they were incredible. 

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Taikunping said Jan 26, 2009, 6:39 AM:

  Hey, I’ve got Enya too on my favourites, haven’t got her new one, but mum has, must borrow it!  I have The Memory of Trees on CD, rest on tape.  Do you like Clannad too….hauntingly beautiful music. Must check out your youtube after dinner, just been preparing some home made veggie soup.. 

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Jenny said Jan 26, 2009, 6:42 AM:

  I got the new Enya for christmas. I like Clannad too. 

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Taikunping said Jan 26, 2009, 6:49 AM:

  I have a very soothing CD with water, birds song and monks singing – excellent for using for relaxation – can’t remember the name of it now, could be one I’ve taped from a friend, must find it and listen again. I’m drumming with a friend from our group at 2pm, we need the practice, drumming can be very uplifting and energising 

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Nicole said Jan 26, 2009, 8:08 AM:

  Tai, Jenny and Silverpony, so wonderful that you have been enjoying this thread. Music is such a big part of my life that I was hoping for an active ongoing discussion on everyone’s favourites, and now it looks like it’s happening.  I first got to appreciate the beauty and joy of Hawaiian music on my first visit there in 1986. The language itself is so lovely and flowing. I just found this song on youtube: 

Keali’i Reichel sings Kawaipunahele 

I have loved the Carmina Burana for years, and was thrilled when I got the chance to sing it in a big combined choir (not as big as that performance for the Prince of Wales though, what a great show that must have been). It was fun learning to pronounce Latin in the old German style, satisfying to sing the choruses.My favourite aria from it is Dies Nox et Omnia, baritone solo, but I couldn’t find any version on YouTube I liked. 

The choir I’ve just started singing with will be doing a lot of very gorgeous music, a bit off the beaten track (except for the Ave Verum by Mozart), and yes some Vivaldi, his “Credo” – one of the ones I find most entrancing is  

Versa est in Luctum

though it’s sad – the words mean 

My harp is tuned for lamentation,
and my flute to the voice of those who weep.
Spare me, O Lord,
for my days are as nothing.

Love, 

Nicole

  

 

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Taikunping said Jan 26, 2009, 9:35 AM:

  Most beautiful video and such soothing Hawaiian music. I would like like to sing more in a group. Our drum teacher may teach us some African songs to sing along with the drumming. 

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Nicole said Jan 26, 2009, 10:55 AM:

  African songs and drumming are a magical combination. You must get so much joy from your drumming group! how about the Native Flute? It has such a warmth and resonance 

Spiritual Flute: The Beauty of Nature 

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Jenny said Jan 27, 2009, 5:22 AM:

  Thats beautiful. I spent ages listening to over 10 different versions of the Allelujah Chorus. Thats also stunning. Good idea for a group. I keep thinking of more. The music of Taize is lovely too but I couldnt decide which one to link to. I particularly love their earlier music which had no instruments or just guitars. There is a wonderful book called Brother Roger and it tells about how Taize got started. I think it has become too commercial now though. But I think my current fav music that raises my spirits and transports me is Deva Premals song that I linked to earlier

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=d63COahIpVM

and this version is really ethereal. 

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Taikunping said Jan 27, 2009, 5:47 AM:

  Just coming to post a tibetan singing bowl youtube link! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BckaOwrn1ok&feature=related The Music of the Spheres 

I found it was very heart related, the guy playing the bowls was really in the flow..

Found this when watching the images and crystal singing bowls Nicole 

Will go check out your link Jen 

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Nicole said Jan 27, 2009, 9:11 AM:

  Tai, sorry you were having trouble with that link, singing bowls are awesome. Is this anything like what you were trying to post? 

The Music of Music of the Spheres 

Jen, I love singing Taize/playing the flute – it brings us into a beautiful space of worship.

There are so many great Taizes, but this is one of my favourites: 

 

And in honour of Mozart’s birthday anniversary,

 

 

 

 

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Taikunping said Jan 27, 2009, 10:07 AM:

 
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, ‘My son, the battle is between two ‘wolves’ inside us all.One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.The other is Good. The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: ‘Which wolf wins?’The old Cherokee simply replied, ‘The one you feed.’
Hi Nicole, that was the right one! I found this on the spiritual flute link (one of the comments on the music) I rather liked it…
The flute was magic, haven’t caught up with the other links yet. Just so much beauty to drink – my cup is full!
Love Tai
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Nicole said Jan 27, 2009, 10:23 AM:

  I love that parable, Tai. So, may your cup run over with joy and bliss! 🙂 Here’s some more Mozart – Lang Lang is such a phenomenon, do you know of him? 

 Lang Lang Mozart Piano Concert nr24 c-moll Kv491 (part1/3) 

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Taikunping said Jan 27, 2009, 10:51 AM:

  I doKNOW him now -very rousing, I shall put all that power and spirit into making the tea ! 

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Jenny said Jan 27, 2009, 2:09 PM:

  Hi Tai and Nicole, I love this group. Enjoyed Mozart. Happy Birthday M.Heres something a bit different but also enjoyable and touching. 

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xoMhCT-7A

Have a great day. Gotta go to work.

Hugs Jenny 

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Nicole said Jan 27, 2009, 4:13 PM:

  Jenny, Alluvja,


Have a good day at work, Jenny.That’s a lovely, warm rendition of What a Wonderful World, great pictures in the slideshow too.

Alluvja! Good to see you. Your post appears in the right place on my screen – maybe you have the “unthreaded” or “newest first view? Or it could be another glitch due to the new format.

I would like to know the Faure Requiem better. There is nothing like having to perform music to motivate one to learning it really well 🙂 so maybe I will have a chance to sing it one day.

I love this part of that Requiem, it is so ethereal, makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up 🙂

Faure: Requiem (In Paradisum)

In paradisum deducant te angeli,
in tuo adventu
suscipiant te martyres,
et perducant te
in civitatem sanctam Jerusalem.
Chorus angelorum te suscipiat,
et cum Lazaro quondam paupere
aeternam habeas requiem.
 

May the angels lead you into paradise,
May the martyrs receive you
In your coming,
And may they guide you
Into the holy city, Jerusalem.
May the chorus of angels receive you
And with Lazarus once poor
May you have eternal rest.

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Taikunping said Jan 28, 2009, 5:00 AM:

  That song and the singer were so gentle, peaceful and full of love Jen, greatLove Tai 

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Nicole said Jan 28, 2009, 7:45 AM:

  I hear from our friend Albert that 2009 is Handel year in Australia. I love the Messiah, but here’s something just as magnificent from Handel’s Zadok the PriestDarn! That didn’t work 🙂 let’s try this

http://ckuik.com/Zadok_the_Priest_-_Georg_Friedrich_Handel 

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Taikunping said Jan 28, 2009, 10:57 AM:

  Just had my late afternoon burst of Zadok before making tea and unstacking the dishwasher – haved a blessed day
Tai 

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Nicole said Jan 28, 2009, 12:31 PM:

  Thanks, Tai, just about ready to go to work now, I’ll leave you with this Dougie Maclean song (sweet strings accompanying)Dougie MacLean – Broken Wings 

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Taikunping said Jan 30, 2009, 9:26 AM:

  so soft and gentle, a little sad…
 
for some reason I thought of Cat Stevens – Moonshadow
 
I listened a while agot to a 10min Youtube of the lotus sutra, it was quite an experience, it sort of vibrated in the chest – it was a tone, more than anything – interesting… 

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Nicole said Jan 30, 2009, 10:12 AM:

  Yes, I could see why Moonshadow might have come to mind… The lotus sutra sounds like quite an experience.

This one has very lovely images too…

Relax – Buddhist Meditation Music – Zen Garden … 

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muji said Jan 30, 2009, 11:32 AM:

  I received Nicole’s invitation to this celebration. She said to bring classical music. I was going to post “Oh Well” by the very old Fleetwood Mac when they were still led by Peter Green who was going through his Jesus phase. But, the video was removed by Warner Brothers for copyright infringement!To me, “spiritual” is anything that moves me closer to my center, toward wholeness or nothingness. “Oh Well” is one of the most paradoxical pieces of music you’ll ever hear. It begins as raucous instrumental blues rock that stops on a dime, and after a cowbell (!) Peter Green sings without backing:

“I can’t help about the shape I’m
I can’t sing, I ain’t pretty and my legs are thin
But, don’t ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to
Oh well…”

Cowbell, more revved up guitar and another stop and cowbell…

“Now, when I talked to God
I knew He’d understand
He said ‘Stick by me and I’ll be your guiding hand
But, don’t ask me what I think of you,
I might not give the answer that you want me to’
Oh well…”

Cowbell, raucous guitar and a climax that segues into seven minutes of pseudo classical Spanish guitar with recorder and cello, completely instrumental. There’s Nicole’s “classical music”!

This was my “spiritual music” when I was a teenager. This, some other music by Peter Green, and George Harrison’s “All Things Must Pass” album. It’s now forty years later and I’ve found other music that moves me in different ways. But, the important element has always been MOVEMENT.

I was in a workshop once conducted by John Pierrakos a co-founder of Bioenergetics. It was my first with John, a 76 year old Greek man with incredibly vibrant energy. John was one of the most real, the most emotionally honest people I’ve ever met.

At the start of the workshop, one of the women put on some new age CD, the typical ethereal stuff, until John arrived. As soon as John did arrive, he IMMEDIATELY said to “Turn that off! It’s keeling the energy!” And, absolutely EVERY time we grew silent, withdrawning our energy, holding our breath and leaving our bodies, John would confront the forty of us and plead for us to help him while he worked to unblock one of us individually.

One particular moment I’ll never forget. John had a woman over a roller, a two-foot diameter cylinder that was used in the work he did. It’s similar to the exercise balls around now, but more stable. Someone would lie face up onto the cylinder with the middle of their back, the area where the diaphragm attaches to the spine, contacting the cylinder. Feet would be planted on the floor and arms outstretched to open the heart. The head would be allowed to hang loosely.

John hovered over this woman, who he had instructed to breathe very deeply, and squeezed her throat muscles. It looked like he was strangling her. You could feel the fear in the rest of us. There was a silence. John looks up at us and says “BREATHE! Feel this yourselves! I’m an old man, I need your help…don’t keell the energy!” We obeyed and within a minute, the woman cried out as loudly as she could with the cry of a BABY! Every single one of us IMMEDIATELY began to sob. What she’d been holding in resonated with what we all hold in to different degrees. Our ACTIVE participation helped HER release and her release helped US release. I’ll never forget the oneness of that experience. And, that oneness is what I see as “spiritual”.

ANYTHING that facilitates this, any kind of music, an understanding look, a crisis…it really doesn’t matter what, anything that facilitates MOVEMENT can help us experience transcendant wholeness. 

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Nicole said Jan 30, 2009, 4:25 PM:

  What a powerful and moving experience that was, muji. There are so many, many ways and kinds of music and experiences that can lead us further into wholeness, I most heartily agree!

Thank you so much for this post. It’s tremendous.

Love,

Nicole 

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Taikunping said Feb 3, 2009, 8:33 AM:

  I find “Out of the Depths” (De Profundis) very moving – it’s by Terry Oldfield
 
 
It’s on the New World Music label
“the lapping waves of sound that ride Terry’s flute and the alluring siren-like vocals of Imogen entice you deep beneath the surface, where whale song provides an emotive counterpoint for a haunting lyrical plea.  This compelling musical prayer of heart felt communion alternates with cascades of enthralling beauty and joyous freedom, unfolding a feast of glorious sounds
Voted Album of the Year – think it was 1993
 
this is the blurb off the back of the CD!
  
picture of Ocean Creature Playing Image 

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Nicole said Feb 3, 2009, 9:53 AM:

  Great music and wonderful picture. I love whales!Now let’s see, whale music:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=p_o6NQX7lmE

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xo2bVbDtiX8&feature=related

Love,

Nicole 

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Taikunping said Feb 3, 2009, 10:23 AM:

 
 
have a happy day – I wonder what those whales were talking about… 

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Nicole said Feb 4, 2009, 8:08 AM:

  Love your dolphins. They are delightful. Yes, who knows what philosophical discussions we were listening in on from the depths of the ocean? :)Here are dolphins to the sounds of Pink Floyd:

Echoes – Pink Floyd part 1  

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Taikunping said Feb 7, 2009, 11:05 AM:

  in deep appreciation to dolphins and the ocean
 
 
 
One of my dolphin CD’s “Harmony” by David Sun – New World Music
 
 
 
“This delicate, imaginative music links the playful, complelling voices of Dolphins with the soothing sounds of their watery world.  The effect is powerfully comforting, inspiring and restful, drawing on upon the Dolphin’s renowned healing powers to balance the listener…
 
 
 
above moving dolphins from guess where, photobucket.com
 
 
 
Love and light to all dolphins 

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Nicole said Feb 8, 2009, 8:12 AM:

  Sounds like a wonderful CD, Tai,I just discovered this today, isn’t it lovely?

Ocean



Peace,

Nicole 

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Taikunping said Feb 9, 2009, 2:58 AM:

  the music took you to a deep ocean, where the waves just moved forever
 
 
 
I saw this video too on the same page – called Water by Keplerne1
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22idB502CTI&feature=related 

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Nicole said Feb 9, 2009, 9:30 AM:

  Exactly, the endless waves of being, Tai, you know it.Unfortunately the video you linked is showing up as unavailable.

Tai, I’m an absolute nut for Ralph Vaughan Williams’ music, and this is one of my very favourite performances of one of my favourite songs by him. It is very oceanic, no wonder they used it in the score of Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World 🙂

Ralph Vaughan WilliamsFantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis




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Taikunping said Feb 18, 2009, 3:54 AM:

  It sounds like waves rising and falling, beautiful ….. it was a shame about my video not working.  If a video shows as feature related does it mean that it isn’t shown for very long on youtube.  I still haven’t worked out all the technical stuff! 

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Nicole said Feb 18, 2009, 8:54 AM:

  Yes, that’s right, you can hear the waves… oh too bad, I wish you could have seen it. I don’t know what “feature related” means, this video has been on youtube for a long time though…May I share another favourite? Another fantasia, this time on a much more familiar song

Fantasia on Greensleeves – Ralph Vaughan Williams

Hope you can see the video, lots of beloved trees 🙂

Hugs,

Nicole 

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Taikunping said Feb 19, 2009, 4:49 AM:

  Hi Nicole, that was beautiful, just like walking up on Bickerton Hills….I love Greensleeves, it was one of my favourites on the recorder and guitar when I was learning – don’t think it would sound quite the same on my drum!
 
A good way to start my day.
 
The loading and unloading is getting a little slow, would you like to start another music thread? 

Post-Modern Pop

Post-Modern Pop

Posted on Dec 20th, 2008 by Marmalade : Gaia Child Marmalade
I’ve been trying out a trial of Rhapsody.  I must say I like the service and can find nearly everything I’m looking for.  In the process, I discovered a music genre that they had… Post-Modern Pop (top albums, top tracks).  I’d never heard of that category, but they had several of my favorite artists listed: Bjork, Ween, They Might Be Giants, Beck, and Tegan and Sara.  Here is Rhapsody’s definition of Post-Modern Pop:

Post-Modern Pop alternately mocks and celebrates trashy culture — sometimes at the same time — through a hodgepodge of sampling and genre-bending. Beck, Post-Modern Pop’s point man, crystallized the genre’s junkyard vision by blending nearly every imaginable musical style — from folk to hip-hop to Indie Rock — on his groundbreaking mid-1990s albums Mellow Gold and Odelay. L.A. production duo the Dust Brothers have played a significant role in forming Post- Modern Pop’s eclectic sound, producing Odelay as well as the Beastie Boys’ cult favorite Paul’s Boutique plus several tracks on I Become Small and Go, the sleeper debut of Bay Area band Creeper Lagoon. Post-Modern Pop’s success rests in its ability to tap into an overwhelming variety of stylistic sources to assemble hazy yet gripping amalgamations of sound that somehow reflect the essence of pop culture.

 
 

Music Online

Music Online

Posted on Dec 18th, 2008 by Marmalade : Gaia Explorer Marmalade
I’ve been checking out sites where you can play music and create channels.  I’ve so far only played around Last FM to any great extent, but plan on checking out the others.  Here is a good recent review of the top four by Nathan Chase:

Slacker, Last.fm, Pandora, & LaunchCast – A Personalized Radio Roundup

Here is an article by Matt Rosoff at Digital Noise:

CBS adds Launchcast to its online radio arsenal

Launchcast was owned by Yahoo and was the original online music service, but I don’t get the sense that its as popular as some of the others.  CBS already owns Last FFM and plans on changing Launchcast to fit a different niche.  Last FM and Launchast combined will create quite a competition to the other offerings.

Edit: I want to add a couple of links and comments.

The first comparison I came across was this one by Steve Krause.  Its a good analysis of the differences between the two biggest players that have free services.

Pandora and Last.fm: Nature vs. Nurture in Music Recommenders

Here is a review by Gary Savelson that gives a quick synopsis of many different services.

Discovering Music: Jango, Finetune, Meemix, Slacker, Deezer, MOG, Last.fm, Pandora, Haystack

This one that is very detailed.

Rocketsurgeon Blog

This is interesting… a couple of sites that allow you to use your Last FM account to discover videos on Youtube.

last.fm mashup

I Love Music Video

The comment I wanted to make is that there is some nice software that helps connect between these services.  There is one that sends what you listen to on Pandora to your Last FM account and one that does the same sending your Rhapsody music to Last FM. 

Last FM seems to be the most popular and sounds like its probably more useful for most people.  It has a simpler model and the community aspect creates a strong loyalty base.  I’ve found it easy to use and it gives me solid recommendations for similar music.  I’ll explore Pandora some and I might even choose to pay for Rhapsody, but whatever the case I’ll probably still visit Last FM.

Its hard to tell which services might survive in the long run as the music industry is always looking to increase their profits which might force under some of these free services.  I don’t know about Pandora because it was having some trouble recently, but I’m willing to bet Last FM lasts as it has a large company backing it.  Pandora could easily lose out as soon as other companies start trying the same thing they do.

I’m not sure what is going on with Yahoo.  There changing everything around and I don’t know what they’ll be offering in the future.  They shifted some of their services off onto Rhapsody.  I have no idea how Yahoo compares, but it doesn’t seem to be in the same league with Pandora and Last FM.

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Nicole said

For me, the biggest problem with Pandora is that it only works in the US. I found it quite promising before it became unavailable to us, now it’s only frustrating to think about. I don’t know why I stopped using Last FM, guess I just got too busy and forgot to come back to it. One thing was that I found it quite limited in terms of classical music. I would love a good site like this that really has the breadth and depth of classical to explore and link. But that’s probably unlikely.

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Marmalade said

Ahhh, yes, I’d heard that Canadians can’t get some of the services. Sorry to hear that. Its easy to forget about national bordres when online… or maybe its easy for an American.

I’m also sorry that Last FM is limited in terms of classical music. I wonder that is. I suppose Last FM focuses on more popular music, but you’d think that classical would have a large audience… maybe the typical person interested in classical doesn’t tend to look online for music. I wonder if there are any other free services that offer classical music.

I suppose you might have to go to a pay site to get classical. Have you ever tried any of the download or subscription services? I’m really curious about them.

There are two reasons I got out of the habit of listening to music on a regular basis. For one, I didn’t like spending money on cds. The second is that the musical offering on local radio stations is worse than it used to be.

I’m thinking a subscription service could make me more interested in music again. I’m really enjoying gathering my favorites on Last FM, but it doesn’t offer subscription to unlimited listening to all songs available. Last FM hasa severe limitation to what you can playwithout buying and there aren’t too many songs I would want to permanently own.

I came across Rhapsody via Yahoo. I’m checking them out right now and did some searches for reviews. Looking at comparisons with other services (Napster, Zune), Rhapsody seems maybe the best fit for me. Supposedly, they have around 4 million songs available which might be the biggest collection available online. The price seems reasonable. The only downside is that if you stop subscription, you lose your library of favorites.

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Nicole said

i’ve been quite happy with emusic as a paid site from which one can get a large variety of really good music, including classical. I don’t spend as much time there as I could though.

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Marmalade said

I’d heard people give great praise to emusic. From what I understand, its a good place to find more altenative music which I guess in this case includes classical. I wonder if it has anything Rhapsody wouldn’t. I keep seeing new numbers on Rhapsody. The last one I noticed said there was something like6 or7 million songs on Rhapsody and that they add new songs as they’re released on a weekly basis.

So, emusic has everything you want? Have you ever looked for something there and not been able to find it?

Rhapsody and emusic seem to have different purposes. Rhapsody ismore massiveand more expensive. Rhapsody is probably trying to be everything to everyone, but I don’t know how successful they are at doing that. Another thing is that someone said that emusic isn’t a subscription service in the way Rhapsody is. I’m not quite sure what the specific differences are though.

What attracted you to emusic? I suppose it being available in Canada was a point in its favor. 🙂

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Marmalade said

One thing I coudn’t find on Rhapody was the soundtrack to the movie Billy Elliot. I was surprised because it was a major movie. I did a search around. It didn’t seem to be available on other music sites which is strange because the music on the soundtrack can be found through the albums of the musicians themselves.

There is one reallynice thing about Rhapsody and Last FM. I’ve set it up so what I play on Rhapsody gets show on my profile on Last FM. They balance eachother out well. There is more music available on Rhapsody of course, but Last FM lets you see what others with similar tastes are listening to.

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Marmalade said

I’ve made another happy discovery.

Both Last FM and Rhapody have some spoken word… specifically William S. Burroughs, but not as muh as I’d like. I even befriended a fellow Burroughs fan and joinedthe Burroughs group this person started. I already own practically all of the available cds of Burroughs, but its still nice to find Burroughs on the main music sites.

I’d like to find other spoken word authors. I’ll probably have to check elsewhere for a more full selection. That is my only major disappointment so far with Rhapsody. Still, they do have a fair amount of spoken word considering its not their focus.

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Nicole said

That’s really cool!

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Marmalade said

Ya know, I have to give props to Last FM. They have a very simple and intuitive system. And its quite amazing how much you can find on it considering its basic services are free.

On another note, soundtracks seem hard to find on the music sites. Along with Billy Eliot, I couldn’t find the soundtracks to either Dancer in the Dark or Songcatcher. All three of those movies were very musically-oriented to say the least. I would imagine that the music sites would like to offer these soundtracks, but apparently they have a hard time making deals with the movie industry.

Going back to my previous comment, I did look around for sites that offered spoken word. Unfortunately, there doesn’t appear to be anything similar to these music sites. The spoken audio sites seem to be where the music sites were years ago… maybe there just isn’t enough money in that industry to bring about innovation.

Love: Tragic & Otherwise

Love: Tragic & Otherwise

Posted on Dec 15th, 2008 by Marmalade : Gaia Explorer Marmalade
 
 
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Nicole said

wow, all this pain. Too much for me today, I’m afraid, my friend.

So, it looks like the commenting situation has improved/been resolved?

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Marmalade said

That is funny. I didn’t intend it to be painful. I was initially just thinking of some of my favorite songs and movie scenes, and I realized that a large proportion of them involved tragic romance.

I’m not surprised. I often forget that one of those pivotal books in my life is Wuthering Heights. lol There are 3 fiction books that I read in highschoolwhich had long-term impact on my whole sense of life. The other two are Hesse’s Siddhartha and Hardy’s Jude the Obscure. Thinking about it, both of those also have their tragic romances.

This is a highly personal collection.

The Bonnie Tyler song is from my brief college days when love and life in general seemed like a sad pipe dream. That song reminded me of my own buried emotions. The first video is from Legends of the Fall. Its a somewhat cheesy movie, but I watched it at a time(after dropping out of college)when I was feeling pulled between a desire for home and a desire for escape. The epic scenery resonated with the Arizona landscape where I was briefly living at the time.

Moulin Rouge was a movie that I became obsessed with during a deeply troubled romance, my first love in fact. It was this love of mine who made a collection of songs for me which included Bjork’s All is Love and Dido’s White Flag. I particularly love White Flag and can listen to it endlessly.

The rest are just movies that are some of my most favorite of favorites. All of them touch me deeply.

I’m sure if I thought more about it, there are other scenes and songs I could add.

I wanted to add some other scenes from Legends of the Fall. When Tristan is leaving, Suzannah tells him she’ll wait for him forever. Of course, after years have passed, he does return but she has married the brother. She tells Tristan that forever was too long, and then she kills herself. I couldn’t find any video for those scenes.

Nor could I find a scene I like from Dark City. The female lead tells the protagonist that even though their memories are false their love is real because it feels real. Its nice logic, and its actually not a tragic movie.

I almost included in this collection another song from a musical. The song I speak of is from Jesus Christ Superstar. Mary is singing about how she should love Jesus. Its not exactly a romantic love song, but it has the same feeling to it… a complex lovefelt towardsa person who is doomed.

Well, Nicole, come back again sometime when your tolerance for pain is a bit higher. There is some great beauty amidst the above sadness.

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about 10 hours later

Marmalade said

Hey Nicole – BTW I was wanting to point out that not all the videos are sad. The 4th and 5th videos are quite happy I’d say. In particular, All is Full of Love doesn’t even have the slightest undertone of sadness. Its simply a sweet song about love.

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Nicole said

My fault, I randomly started by trying Finish It, but couldn’t make it all the way through the clip.

Yes, you’re quite right about All is Full of Love, I’d seen it before. That song from Jesus Christ Superstar is very touching – “I don’t know how to love him…” It has haunted me since I first heard it as a child.

And I agree that there is great beauty in all this. I feel more cheerful today so will tackle them.

I haven’t seen Legends of the Fall – I remember being terrified by the previews 🙂 it seemed way too sad for me at the time (yes, I am over-sensitive, and I was much worse then!).

So, Dark City is safe to watch eh?

You discover a lot about a person by finding out what books and movies they like, and what songs they enjoy. Up till now, we’ve mostly discussed books and movies. The songs help provide another dimension.

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Marmalade said

Interesting. What attracted you to start withFinish It? That is from The Fountain which probably is my all-time favorite movie… but it is quite the tragic story. Still, it doesn’t feel tragic to me.

All is Full of Love is one of those songs that makes me such a fan of Bjork. Even though she doesn’t tend towards the tragic usually, Dancer in the Dark is an extremely tragic movie. Most of her songs though are more playful and upbeat, and she often has great music videos.

Jesus Christ Superstar is great all around, but there issomething about that particular song. As a spiritual person, the question that Mary asks is so central. I like that musical because it focuses on Mary and Judas. The other movie that brought Jesus story alive for me is The Last Temptation of Christ. People have a love or hate reaction to that movie. That Jesus is portrayed as a tragic character on the level of Job.

As for Legends of the Fall, its probably the least worthy of being included. Its a tad dark and in parts violent. I’ve always had a man-crush on Brad Pitt and tend to like anything he does. All the actors in that movie are very good. Anyways, I suppose its not a movie for you. 🙂

Is Dark City safe to watch? Hmmm… well, it is neo-noir which is dark as the title itself proclaims… but it isn’t as dark as most neo-noir. It has its moments of violence which very well might be too much for you. The reason I don’t consider it tragic is because it has an existentially optimistic ending. Its a story about the indomitable human spirit.

Yeah, I guess I don’t post as much about music. Probably because I really don’t listen to music much. I just have particular songs I enjoy. The problem is that many of my favorite songs are ones I hear on the radio and so I often don’t even know the name of or the band. I’ve joined Last FM recently. Maybe I’ll be able to collect some of my favorite music together. I’ll give it some thought and I’ll see if I can put blog post together about it.

Marmalade : Gaia Explorer

1 day later

Marmalade said

Let me add another comment. The song from Dancer in the Dark that included above is just absolutely beautiful to the point of being heart-wrenching. I think it might be the best song in the movie and I sometimes find myself listening to it repeatedly.

It might just win the prize for being the most tragic of my favorite movies. Wuthering Heights is tragic, but Bjork’s charachter draws out such a deep sympathy from me. She is living such a difficult life and you can feel her loneliness, but that isn’t what she focuses on. All that she sees is beauty and her love for her son is more important than anything including her own life.

It is a hard movie to get into. In order to set up the mood, it starts out very slow…. but the emotional intensity just keeps building until the very last moment. It is a story about love. She loves her son and the man in the video clip loves her. He is trying to woo her, but her response is that she has already lived her life and there is nothing left for her. She wants to save her son from her own fate and she stoically accepts her responsibility.

The movie, overall, is too dark to watch too often. However, certain scenes I feel drawn to watch again and again. The song I included is one of the most emotionally beautiful of any song I’ve ever heard. Its where she first explains herself to another. Its just awesome.

Nicole : wakingdreamer

2 days later

Nicole said

I’m not sure why I started with Finish It, because it was an emotional impulse, not thought through. The only explanation is that there was something in the freeze-frame that really drew me in – my best guess is that he reminds me of someone who is very dear to me.

As much as I have always loved books and as powerfully as movies affect me, music is a more over-riding force in my life. I tend to think songs, feel songs, music is so much a part of the fabric of my life.

I will probably end up watching the Fountain as people keep recommending it to me, though I know I will probably cry a lot. Can’t be helped 🙂

I haven’t seen the Last Temptation of Christ, but can understand its appeal.

So, you like Brad Pitt eh? And the other actors in the movie are good, but it’s not for me? Oh well 🙂

Hmm Dark City has an optimistic ending does it? I think from our PKD discussions we have a somewhat different idea of optimistic so I’ll take that under advisement :):)

I would very much like to read a blog about your favourite music if you are so inclined to write it…

I’m very intrigued to hear that song from Dancer in the Dark now that you’ve explained about it, will do that now…

Marmalade : Gaia Explorer

2 days later

Marmalade said

I used to listen to music more, but then I got into talk radio. Somehow speaking voices soothe me.

These days, the music I’m interested in is whatever my friend is playing because we share a similar taste and music from movies. Actually, I’ve discovered several songs I like recently from commercials. Advertising may not influence my buying habits much, but apparently it can influence the songs I’ll listen to. lol

In reference to a potential blog about music, we’ll see how that goes. It probably wouldn’t be for a while because I’m focused somewhat elsewhere. It sounds enjoyable and so I’ll probably get around to it… eventually. 🙂

Dark City is fairly typical neo-noir, and so it depends on whether you like that genre. It doesn’t seem like a genre you’d be attracted to.

Come to think of it, Dark City isn’t exactly typical neo-noir, but has many typical neo-noir elements. Its more of a cross-breeding between neo-noir and SF with some Kafka influence thrown in. Its a darker version of The Truman Show and has some of the feeling of a PKD story.

It was made shortly before The Matrix and has similar themes. Its darker than The Matrix in being more claustrophobic (more focused on one character in a more enclosed world), but its much less violent. It doesn’t have as much of that over-the-top violence that The Matrix loves to emphasize.

Its maybe equally dark to A Scanner Darkly. Scanner doesn’t have much violence at all, but Scanner is maybe more depressing on the subjective level of psychological disintegration. I’d say that Dark City has an ending that is more optimistic… all is relative though.

All in all, I’m pretty sure its another movie not for you. Its hard to tell though. I have a friend who tries to be very positive and isn’t attracted to depressing entertainment. He considers Dark City to be a very emotionally moving movie. He seemed to consider the ending positive. Then again, he also likes superhero movies and so he is probably less effected by violence than you are.

Yes, please let me know what you think of the Dancer in the Dark song. Some people just don’t like Bjork’s voice… fools that they are!

Nicole : wakingdreamer

3 days later

Nicole said

well, unfortunately, i am one of those foolish people who doesn’t like Bjork’s voice. I admire what she does, which is trailblazing for the genre, but it just doesn’t work for me. I spend too much time with classical music, I guess… That said, the organist at my church likes Bjork a lot and he is ultra into classical singing, was even married to an operatic soprano. So go figure 🙂

If I get brave I’ll try out some of those movies and see if I survive 🙂

Marmalade : Gaia Child

3 days later

Marmalade said

I wonder why I like her voice so much. Two things come to mind. She has pretty good range in how she uses her voice. But more importantly she expresses emotion well. She can be a passionate singer something like Meatloaf. What I’d love to hear her do is some folk ballads. She has a good voice for folk and she would definitely make any song her own.

Hey, guess what I’m doing? I’m on Last FM perusing the music. Its a pretty cool site that I’d recommend. At the moment, I’m listening to T.V. Carpio sing from Across the Universe… another bittersweet love song. She has a really really nicevoice. ❤

Nicole : wakingdreamer

3 days later

Nicole said

Well, hopefully she will take you up on that, and do some folk music. I’d like to hear that too.

Last FM is a good site, but it’s been a while since I’ve used it. 

Marmalade : Gaia Child

5 days later

Marmalade said

In case you want to check out what I’m listening to, I have an accunt on Last FM. I’m MarmaladeSteele which is a variation of my name I often use when the username Marmalade is already taken.

Nicole : wakingdreamer

6 days later

Nicole said

Thanks, I’ll have a look!