The Sting of the Scorpion

There is continuous failure in American society, continuous for my entire life. This past campaign season and election has been a wake up call for me, even as others continue to sleep and dream. I’ve been shocked by how so many people, especially among the well educated, don’t seem to grasp what is going on. No matter how bad it gets, they always find new ways to rationalize it and make themselves further complicit in making it worse. They can’t see what has been happening, what has caused it, and where it is heading.

It isn’t a refusal but an inability to understand. They just don’t get it. I doubt they will ever get it, at least not until it’s too late to doing anything about it. That might be intentional on an unconscious level. These people realize they aren’t capable of the changes that are necessary, that must and will happen. Repressed desires can get expressed in odd ways, oftentimes in the form of resistance and fear that makes the desired outcome inevitable. I’ve previously observed this pattern in human behavior. Sometimes people know a change needs to happen. But on a conscious level they can’t take responsibility for making the change happen. So they create situations that will force the change to happen.

An example of this is people who obviously don’t like a job. They have the skills to work other jobs and there are other jobs available. Yet they won’t quit the job they have, instead acting in ways that will get them fired. To an outside perspective, it is clear the person is trying to get fired. It is what they want, even if it isn’t what they can admit to wanting.

Trump’s election is like that. On a conscious level, Democrats didn’t want a crazy demagogue Republican as president. Even so, everything they’ve done has created the conditions to put Trump into power, even going so far as the DNC promoting him into the Republican nomination. Trump will force the changes to happen, good or bad, and so force us all to take action. He will accomplish for Democrats what no establishment Democrat ever could. Democrats needed to make manifest the unseen, to exacerbate and exaggerate the situation so that it would be so overwhelming as to not be denied. Trump is playing the role required of him, a role taken to the extreme of caricature.

Arnold Mindell has a theory about this. If something goes unclaimed in the collective psyche, it must find a way to manifest in our collective experience. It’s similar to the process of a patient’s transference and a pscyhotherapists countertransference, but on a larger scale of our shared humanity — a group dynamic. This sometimes means an individual person needs to embody the issue that the group needs to confront. Trump has taken all of the problems we are facing and made them visible and visceral, made them concretely and personally real. That is what was needed. All our problems are now unavoidable. Trump is in power because, as a society, we didn’t know how to face our problems in a different way. Trump is holding a mirror up for Americans to see themselves.

As with Trump, Democrats, the liberal class, and the mainstream media are also playing roles. Few of them understand this. But that is irrelevant. For those of us who do understand, it is our responsibility to act accordingly and to treat them accordingly.

Consider the fable of the scorpion and the frog. The scorpion asked the frog to carry him across the river. Even though knowing scorpions are dangerous, the frog thought he was safe because he assumed the scorpion wouldn’t sting him while carrying him across. He was wrong and the scorpion did sting him. As the frog faced the reality that they both would drown, he asked the scorpion why he did it. The scorpion said because it was in his nature.

Like the scorpion, those in power and their minions on the pseudo-left can’t help themselves. It’s in their nature or, rather, it’s in the role they are playing. They’ve become fully identified with that role with its scripted behavior. But like the frog, the rest of us have a choice. There is nothing forcing us to carry the scorpion on our backs. It would be the wise thing to do keep as far away from the scorpion as possible. We already know how that story ends.

That leaves us in a situation of uncertainty. Those of us who saw it all coming didn’t chose this fate. But it is the shared fate that has chosen us, by default of being part of the same society that includes those who did make that choice. It is irrelevant what we’d prefer. We have to deal with what is before us. Knowing the nature of those involved, knowing the roles that are being played, how do we respond? What do we do?

It does no good to blame the scorpion. The scorpion simply acts in the way any scorpion would act, as scorpions have always acted since time immemorial. The scorpion isn’t evil. Likewise, we know that it is in the nature of pseudo-liberal Democrats to betray us when it matters most. It is simply what they do. They can’t be trusted any more than a scorpion. But they aren’t evil. It’s just a role they’ve taken on and the script they are playing out.

It is up to us to understand our own nature. No one can do that for us. We have to choose our own role and take responsibility for what it entails. Anger, outrage, frustration, and even hatred are normal human responses. It’s fine to feel the full range of your humanity, including that of hope and longing. The issue we face is how might we act, rather than merely react. In this scenario, what role is being ignored and is demanding to be fulfilled. What might that role represent? And are we capable of playing it?

If it turns out we don’t like any of the roles on offer, that takes us down another level deeper. The roles available are based on the story we are collectively living and manifesting. Every story has a particular ending. To change the ending, we’d have to change the story. In telling a new story, we would have different roles to choose from. And in choosing some other role, we’d enact a worldview that would displace what came before. Enough people do the same and all of society will follow.

You can listen to the stories told to you. Or you can tell your own story.

26 thoughts on “The Sting of the Scorpion

    • One thing is clear to me. The ruling elite of the Democratic establishment, along with many partisans, didn’t want Sanders to win more than anything else. They preferred even Trump over Sanders. I think that many of them knew Clinton couldn’t win. And I suspect that some of them didn’t want to win.

      It’s easier to lose. Then you can simply stand on the outside denying you have any power or responsibility. That is the purpose Trump serves. He can be a scapegoat, a collective way for Americans to work out the worst aspects of our society.

      That is what makes sense to me, at the moment. But we’ll see.

      I’m just not going to wait for Democrats to grow a conscience. This last betrayal was a step too far, even for our corrupt system. It was an unforgivable act because it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity thrown away. We aren’t in a position where we can afford a ruling elite that acts so cavalier about the consequences that effect us all.

      The rest of us have to entirely cut ties from the Democrats. They are not our friends or our allies. They are not to be trusted. We have to work outside of the present system. The two main parties have to be treated as part of the problem to be solved. Or else they need to be dismissed as irrelevant to actions that must be taken.

      It doesn’t matter what Democrats think, want, support, or anything else. We have to decide what we are going to do and simply do it.

      Our present political system has lost all moral validity. Politicians don’t represent us. At best, we make our demands and then threaten them if they don’t do what tell them to do. And then we make that threat so real that they fear what will be coming for them. They have to know that either they do our bidding or they will be taken out by the coming revolution.

      We the people must lead and then the self-proclaimed leaders will follow. That is what happened with the American Revolution. Several decades of populist revolts against the colonial elite finally developed into such a force that some of the colonial elites finally decided to join and make it a war against the empire. But point is those elites had their hands forced. They were put in a position of either siding with the rebels or becoming targets. It was fear that made them support revolution. And some of the elite quickly realized the far away government wasn’t going to protect them.

      Fear and violence is the only thing that has ever changed anything of significance in all of American history. Even MLK’s pacifism was preceded by a generation of race wars where there was literal fighting in the streets with guns and mobs. Thousands of people died fighting racial oppression before the ruling elite would pay attention to a black man offering peaceful change. It was at a time when those in power feared losing power because of growing populist outrage. It was out of that that the Civil Rights movement formed.

      The demand for change was that either they allowed it to be peaceful or it would be forced through other means. That is the only choice the powerful understand. And Trump might be the man to force us into such a dire scenario. If so, he will have served his purpose. But it seems like a bad way of going about change. For whatever reason, Americans don’t like doing things the easy way.

  1. A lot of people don’t seem to realize just how bad the Democrats are these days. They have been completely bought and paid for by the very rich. Most people are in denial about the extent of the corruption and of the depth of the betrayal. It really does suck when you consider just how bad things have become in t he US, and how the armies of Democrats insist that people like Obama are just fine.

    In reality they are essentially a legion of useful idiots for the very rich, even if they don’t realize it. They also seem to deny all of this when presented with evidence in a way not dissimilar to how conservatives deny global warming.

    • I’m constantly frustrated by the general ignorance and obtuseness of even the ‘liberal’ Democrats. They are typically above average in IQ and education, but they have major blindspots and areas of ignorance. On every issue, they lack important knowledge that explains the fundamental causes.

      Few of them know the past century of history in the Middle East nor that the region is presently experiencing droughts from climate change. And even fewer of them know much about US foreign policy and how it has shaped the world. They don’t know why there were refugee children at our Southern border, why Hatian-Americans are angry at Democrats, and how both of those relate to Hillary Clinton. They still remain ignorant about the 2000 election, despite their having self-interested reasons to at least be basically curious about why the Supreme Court declared Bush president by fiat.

      It’s impossible to have a discussion with them. Every interaction requires educating them about all that they don’t know. And telling them any new info never sinks in. They don’t want to know. If they wanted to know, they would have learned about it themselves long ago. It’s the willful ignorance that pisses me off. They think that makes them innocent because how can they be blamed for what they don’t know about. But it’s just a delusional form of complicity. It doesn’t make them less guilty.

      I noticed an article about inequality from a few months ago. It is by Eduardo Porter.

      Much of what he has written about over the years shows him as being a neoliberal New Democrat of the typical clueless variety. He favors free trade agreements and criticizes basic income. In another article, he analyzed why our political system was dysfunctional and then made the excuse that Obama did the best he could.

      But the inequality article is interesting for two reasons. He admits how bad the problem has gotten. And it indicates that, as neoliberalism further fails, those like him will increasingly turn to reactionary neoconservatism. If we can’t improve the lives of Americans through progress, the suggestion then is to make America great again through war.

      It might be a sign that Democrats are going to become even more aggressive and belligerent. If they can’t win elections fairly or even unfairly, they’ll maybe try to become the war party and try to outdo Republicans in fear-mongering. Democrats like Clinton have been pushing hard war hawk policies. I always worried that having her as president increased the chances of a world war. It seemed like she was dreaming of being a war president.

  2. The topic of this post has been on my mind for years. I see the ruling elite act in ways that, from an outside perspective, appear irrational and self-destructive, suicidal even. Continuing on this path, it’s hard to see how very bad results will be avoided, likely either war or revolution.

    But why would a ruling elite commit suicide? In a sense, a post like this is an attempt to tell another kind of story, in explaining the motivations. Maybe the ruling elite have come to despair their own capacity to rule. The American public hates them. The rigged game has been shown for what it is. Public figures like Clinton have been publicly shamed. And with Trump’s election, the US further loses what little respect it had left.

    Why does anyone ever commit suicide? They fall into despair. The situation seems hopeless and overwhelming. And shame definitely pushes many over the edge. Eventually, people simply give up and look for what solution is left to them, and the simplest solution of all is ending one’s life.

    Now put this in the context of a ruling elite having suicidal thoughts who are some combination of narcissistic, sociopathic, and authoritarian. They will make sure that when they go down the entire country will go down with them. It’s like the guy who, when he loses his job, kills all of his family before killing himself. He just can’t imagine his family going on without him.

    This presents the possibility that the ruling elite aren’t entirely clueless. They do realize how bad it is. And they agree with the public that they are incapable of doing anything that is positive or helpful in any kind of way. They’ve lost confidence in themselves, just as the public has lost confidence in them. They know there is no way for them to do the right thing. It’s just not in them to do the right thing. They are moral cowards. They know this and they know everyone else knows this.

    They are complete failures at the one and only thing they’ve committed their lives to doing, which is being a ruling elite. What good is a ruling elite that has failed to rule well?

    The situation is bad and will only get worse. So, maybe knowing their own failure, the ruling elite are engineering the situation to force the change that they are incapable of taking responsibility for. They know change is necessary and inevitable, but they don’t feel capable of being agents of change, much less leaders of change. Realizing that, they have created a scenario that will not only force change but might even force the elimination of the present ruling elite. Oddly, on some level, this might even be what the ruling elite want at this point, just to get it over with.

    The story I’m telling with this possible explanation makes more sense than the story the political parties and the corporate media tell the public. Otherwise, what is happening and what the ruling elite are doing makes absolutely no sense. Well, there is one other explanation I’ve toyed with, that of a ruling elite so disconnected that they are acting, in relation to objective reality, either functionally retarded or functionally psychotic. But that could simply be another way of explaining why the ruling elite is acting suicidal.

    Whatever explanation one prefers, obviously we need to get a better grasp of the situation. The consequences could be horrific. It’s probably already too late to stop what is going to happen. But we might be able to soften the landing, if we immediately treated the situation as serious as it is. Then again, if we were capable of taking the situation seriously, we wouldn’t be in the situation in the first place. There is the rub.

  3. Here is another thing that those in the mainstream don’t get. Actually, I’ll connect two thoughts.

    The first thing has to do with revolution or anything similar to it. My opinion or anyone else’s opinion is irrelevant. I don’t want revolution. Most people don’t want revolution. But revolutions happen because conditions disallow any other possibility. They happen after all other options have been exhausted and frustrated. Most people involved in the American Revolution never sought it out.

    Related to that, most people aren’t against elites. What people are against is a dysfunctional society that fucks them over and makes their lives a miserable struggle for survival. And what people dislike are elites who are undeserving and who lack any sense of noblesse oblige. With great power comes great responsibility.

    In a functioning democracy, elites would gain power and influence through a functioning meritocracy. That does not describe our society. Trump apparently can barely read. He isn’t wealthy and powerful because he deserves it but because he was born into it like aristocracy and the playing field has been rigged for the accumulation for even greater wealth and power.

    There are thousands of plutocrats like Trump who, if they had been born poor minorities, would have been working at McDonald’s or on welfare or homeless or in prison or dead at a young age. And there are millions of Americans who live desperate lives but who, if they had been given the opportunities in a functioning meritocracy, would now be highly successful.

    Almost no one has a problem with an elite that deserves it. Most people want a medical elite to be their doctor, an architectural elite to build their house, an intellectual elite to teach their children. expert elites to run regulatory agencies, etc. The problem with the elite in the US is that, in many cases, they are of such a low quality.

    When I see the ignorant bullshit coming out of the corporate media, those phony journalists aren’t the best a society like ours could offer or one would hope not. I think many elite in American society are honestly clueless, ignorant, disconnected, etc. Some of them might be pretending for reasons of manipulating the public, but most of them are exactly what they appear to be. They are rather mediocre, nothing particularly elite about their knowledge and cognitive capacity.

    To be elite in the US simply means being wealthy and powerful. And to be born into wealth and power, automatically makes you elite (or simply being born into the privilege of the white upper middle class can help, as it did for Hillary Clinton). Very few people work their way up from the severest poverty to the highest echelons of society. The poor feel lucky if they simply make it through life without something horrific happening to them, often committed by those with more wealth or power than them.

    • Here is my experience most of the time when I read or hear something in the corporate media (and I include NPR as part of the corporate media, as it gets a large part of its funding from corporations). It too often becomes an exercise in analyzing why it fails as high quality journalism.

      I have hundreds of blog posts and probably thousands of comments where I take some article, interview, etc from the corporate media. It often only takes me a short period of time to dissect much of what is wrong with it: the biases, narrow framing, ignored issues, missing info, confounding factors, unasked questions, and on and on.

      I find this shocking. I’m a parking ramp cashier who has no college education or expertise of any kind. I’ve had working class jobs my entire life, including working at McDonald’s. Why am I more informed and have a better grasp of the larger context than most of what goes for the intellectual elite in this country?

      Even many academics are often surprisingly lackluster in their knowledge and thinking skills. I suspect that has to do with a couple of factors. Privilege does play a big role in education, especially Ivy League colleges. Plus, most higher education is run like a hierarchical bureaucracy. The most independent free thinkers aren’t likely to be attracted to academia, no more than they’d be attracted to corporate media. And if they were attracted, they likely wouldn’t last long.

      The most brilliant minds in our society are probably the least well known. Some of them might make it into alternative media. But most probably end up in lesser careers just working to make a living. Being too smart, insightful, and such actually can be deleterious to a successful career. Few people want to hire someone who is better and more qualified than they are, especially in a society based on ruthless competition, unless they are someone so secured in their wealth and power that all serious competition can’t effect them (e.g., Trump).

      It’s those who conform best to the social order who will be the most successful within it. That is true of any social order. Theoretically, it would possible to have a society that was a democratic meritocracy where education, knowledge, insight, and expertise were the defining features of the ideal that everyone strove toward and, as such, those who most conformed to that ideal would be the most successful. But that isn’t American society.

    • Here are the educated elite.

      Most working in media are able to appear halfway intelligent in discussing numerous issues, but they tend to be superficial, conventional, and parochial in their views. Most working in academia at best will know a lot about one specific area of one specific field, but beyond that they can lack important info from other areas and fields and so lack any larger context of understanding.

      Most working in politics know enough about how government works and some basic arguments that to varying degrees may relate to some small set of data from think tanks, but they are otherwise ignorant of anything that doesn’t directly help them get elected and help them to manipulate their way up the food chain. Most working at the top of the corporate world come from Ivy League schools and know much about the cronyism of plutocracy, the realpolitik of inverted totalitarianism, and the economics of neoliberal corporatism, but that is their lens for understanding all of reality.

      All of them are prone to the smart idiot effect, partly based on false notions of being the deserved elite in a functioning meritocracy.

    • It seems like no matter what happens it will continue to get uglier. We’ve been on this path for a while and nothing seems to be able to alter its course, since those in power have been going to great lengths to maintain it on this course. It’s not like secret prisons, torture, extreme rendition, assassinations, overthrowing governments, arming terrorists, COINTELPRO, various other kinds of covert operations, etc are a new phenomenon in US government activities.

      The entire power structure has been getting less and less accountable for a long time, not that it was all that accountable back in the bad ol’ days. But one gets the sense that eventually it will hit a breaking point where the last trace of accountability disappears. When it is gone, Americans will suddenly miss it, even though it had been disappearing for decades and few seemed to care. At that point, being poor or unemployed might be the least of our worries.

  4. Change will happen, one way or another, willingly or unwillingly, violent or peacefully. It would be nice to think that it doesn’t have to end in revolution, civil war, or what have you.

    We know that non-violent change is possible. But is it probable in our present situation?

    All historical examples in the US show that even non-violent change was preceded by earlier violence and the threat of further violence. Completely non-violent change on a large scale has never happened before in this country.

    Maybe it could be different this time. I don’t know.

    “Historical studies suggest that it takes 3.5% of a population engaged in sustained nonviolent resistance to topple brutal dictatorships. If that can be true in Chile under Gen Pinochet and Serbia under Milosevic, a few million Americans could prevent their elected government from adopting inhumane, unfair, destructive or oppressive policies – should such drastic measures ever be needed.”

      • The name doesn’t ring a bell. But I’ve read so many pieces about generations theory over the years. I may have come across her before.

        In response to your question, I’m not feeling confident. I know the theory, I know American history in a fair amount of detail, and I know the kind of historical moment we are in. But I just don’t know where we are heading. There are some complicating factors. And that matters to the theory, as conditions can throw the cycle off its normal course, such as the Civil War. But I’m thinking of more basic issues.

        A simple one is that people are living longer. Trump is the oldest person to ever be elected US president. No one in all of US history has ever become president when in their 70s. The Boomers have been at the front edge of living longer, as modern medicine matured the most in their lifetime. Boomers are clinging to power like no generation has before. And they could still be wielding much influence into the next couple of decades.

        The Silent Generation has been the moderating force. It was the 2000s that Boomers took majority control of Congress away from Silents. Sanders probably was the last Silent who will get a chance at the presidency. The generational conflict the Boomers have been involved with has been as much with Silents as GenXers. It maybe is unsurprising that Sanders lost, considering how aggressive Boomers have been in gaining and maintaining power, their not being famous for fighting fair just for endlessly fighting.

        The Silent Generation are of the Artist (Adaptive) type in the theory. They are the last generation to be born in a cycle, but spend their adult life in the next cycle. They are the only living generation that has never had a president. Maybe it’s because they carry too much memory of the previous cycle, as they are the youngest generation with any memory of what came before, which in this case includes WWII (which is why so many anti-war movements ever since have involved major figures from the Silent Generation). Silents do play roles as leaders, although they tend to play a different kind of leader. Many of the most famous and influential people during the ’60s were Silents (MLK, Malcolm X, Timothy Leary, John Lennon, etc). On the other hand, Silents are the most Republican generation, as they remember the moderate party it once was back when the likes of Eisenhower was president.

        Sanders loss of the presidency is the final major loss of the Silent Generation, with resonance to Nader’s 2000 loss, Nader being another Silent. Their days of attempting moderation are quickly waning, not that they’ve had the numbers in politics to do much moderation during recent administrations. That leaves us now with only Generation X on the other end of the Boomers, at least until more Millennials get into positions of power and influence.

        As a GenXer, I’d love to defend my generation with a sense of hope for what we could do once the Boomers are gone. But there are major problems that no generation before has faced and I’m not sure any generation is up to the task. If the Boomers simply left the scene as happened with related generations in previous cycles, we might have a chance to try something different. That isn’t likely to happen. Boomers are living longer and staying healthier longer. They won’t relinquish power willingly and they’ve shown they are still fully capable of controlling mainstream politics. They will be fighting GenXers every step of the way in the coming years.

        Another set of problems is that GenX is in many ways a dysfunctional generation. There has never been any generation in US history that experienced such high rates of lead toxicity, incarceration, etc. We’ve been a victimized and scapegoated generation. That is true to some extent of all generations of the Nomad (Reactive) type. Still I can’t help wondering that such things as lead toxicity have really messed up my generation. Even though I’ve never been tested, I have strong suspicions that I might have had lead toxicity in childhood. I fit the profile: learning disability, school troubles, depression, etc. Now magnify that profile to a large part of an entire generation. And we are supposed to take on power in order to solve the very problems that fucked us up so badly?

        For that reason, this might place much more responsibility on the shoulders of Millennials. I’m just not seeing the inspiring GenX leadership stepping up. My generation may simply be damaged goods. The Democratic Party has purposely excluded GenX and Republicans have put into power some less than hope-inducing GenXers, although Trump will just further make the GOP into the party of the old. Yet in many ways we are now living in the world of GenX, the generation that played a primary role in making the internet into what it is, from search engines to social media. Also, many in alternative media are GenXers. I see GenXers playing a role in the background, as they’ve done for decades. But what role will GenXers play in mainstream politics? I don’t know.

        GenXers have always been a rather mixed cohort. Older GenXers grew up in a rather different world than young GenXers like me, former having more in common with younger Boomers and the latter having more in common with older Millennials. The first wave of GenXers grew up to have a larger proportion of Republicans (and Catholics), but even that first wave has become less Republican over time. This entire generation has become less conservative and less religious as they’ve aged, probably because they grew up during a time when Republicans were gaining power and Democrats were becoming Republican lite. We GenXers have lived through the results of that change, promoted by the previous generations, and many of us aren’t particularly happy about the world we’ve inherited. This could be an advantage, as GenXers will enter power already knowing full well how fucked up everything is.

        One thing that has changed with GenX is within the generation itself. The generation today isn’t entirely the same generation it was decades ago. GenX was originally the smallest of the living generations. But there was such a large wave of immigration toward the end of the 20th century that GenX caught up in numbers. This has led to GenX having a very high proportion of immigrants, not seen since the early 1900s (specifically the Lost Generation).

        GenX is a bit of a wild card. I do suspect surprising results will come out of my generation. GenXers have been apathetic and cynical because they haven’t had full power. It’s been a waiting game. Many might act in entirely unexpected ways once they gain power, maybe turning in new directions that couldn’t have been predicted by the demographics and polling of their younger years. In particular, if events get worse as they probably will, it will bring out a different side of GenXers. But I’m not quite sure what the long term effects will be.

        On a positive note, it’s good to look at the last generation that held the same position, the Lost Generation. They were also politically cynical and apathetic. They had high rates of youth crime, drug use, gang membership, etc. They were the first consumer generation. The older generations feared them like no generation before. They were the wild children who helped create such chaos during the first several decades of the 20th century, when violence rates and immigration rates were at a massive peak.

        So, what kind of adults did the Lost grow up to be? Well, they were the most courageous fighters against oppression. For example, they were the first generation of blacks who as WWI veterans used their guns to fight the KKK in miniature civil wars (Klansmen were mostly of the older generations). The political and corporate elite feared them. The Lost Generation were a major force in demanding reforms that led to the New Deal, even though they rarely experienced much personal benefit from it. They were used to getting the short end of the stick and so it didn’t bother them to sacrifice for future generations.

        Will that pattern repeat? I guess we’ll see.

        Click to access GENXreport2012_05_22.pdf

        • It’s going to have to be Gen X or Y that takes up the mantle at some point.

          It could go either way with Gen X. I think that the author of the article I linked gives Gen Y too little credit. The Sanders Revolution could certainly have not happened without Generation Y. Same with Occupy. Maybe that’s an encouraging sign that the trickle will become a stampede soon.

          Yeah though the elite will live longer. That sucks … the people who deserve it the least get the longest lifespan.


          Yeah I don’t get why people think the poor have it easy in America.

        • Yeah. I wouldn’t be surprised if it declines for the lower classes. But the ruling elite will continue to live longer and longer with each passing generation. That means those in power will stay in power for greater periods of time, making political change ever more difficult.

    • This strategy is a political dead end. It’s a way for the present ruling elite to try to hold onto power for a bit longer. They want to keep the inevitable at bay for a few more years. But the thing about the inevitable is that it comes eventually. But I suppose the Boomers don’t care about what happens after they retire. It’s someone else’s problem then.

    • It says a lot though about the corporate Democrats that they consider a small number of upper middle class right wing voters more valuable than large numbers of less well off white voters.

    • That is the one of the best results to come out of all this. Right-wingers have been fantasizing about this moment for generations, probably at least since the Gilded Age. It was the dream of the government run as a business by a businessman.

      They’ve been able to let this fantasy run wild because they’ve never had to face the reality of how bad it would turn out. Now they’ve finally gotten what they always claimed to have wanted. An increasing number of Americans are finally being confronted with reality. I just wish there was a way to force Democrats to face reality.

    • When this blows up, they are not going to take responsibility for the failures any more than the bankers did in 2008. They are emotionally attached to the idea.

      They are also wed to the idea that the private sector is always going to be better than government. They are going to let go just because they screwed up.

      It’s like the Clinton supporters. Have any of them admitted how wrong they were about Clinton being “electable” and how badly they messed up? They are more interested in blaming voters.

    • Listening to that discussion is so odd.

      Weir sounds moderate and ‘reasonable’, if you just listen to her calm NPR-style voice lulling your mind to sleep, but there really is no substance to anything she says. Even though I’m sure she isn’t stupid, it just sounds like she is repeating the rhetoric she has heard all of her life. I always find that bizarre, a total lack of self-awareness and knowledge about the world.

      Blyth simply states the obvious. which is actually reasonable. What is interesting is how, in the mainstream, the unreasonable is seen as reasonable and the reasonable as unreasonable. Such genuine reasonableness is so rare in mainstream discussion.

      Why do people like Weir prefer to be optimistically wrong than realistically right? That just leads further in the direction of Trump. How can she not see that? It’s that self-destructive attitude that I keep noticing, so self-destructive as to be suicidal.

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