Iraq War Ends… Yeah! :)

Iraq War Ends… Yeah! 🙂

Posted on Nov 13th, 2008 by Marmalade : Gaia Child Marmalade

The Yes Men Distribute Fake New York Times: “Iraq War Ends”

posted by Scott Beale on Wednesday, November 12th, 2008

This morning in NYC international pranksters The Yes Men recruited volunteers through the website Because We Want It to distribute thousands of copies of a fake version of the New York Times dated July 4, 2009 with the headline “Iraq War Ends”.
Gawaker describes how the prank came together and here’s the reaction from the New York Times. There is also an online version of the fake paper, including a PDF.

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10 thoughts on “Iraq War Ends… Yeah! :)

  1. I have been reading up on the actions of the Iraq War.

    Let’s just say that the rise of ISIS should not have been a particularly surprising outcome.

    • I haven’t studied the issue in great detail. But I’m not surprised by that kind of result. I can’t see how blind and blundering American imperialism could avoid such unintended consequences. What surprises me is that there aren’t more and even worse unintended consequences. Give it time, though.

  2. Later on, if you have the time to, these may be worth reading:

    Estimated cost of War in Iraq:
    http://www.hks.harvard.edu/news-events/publications/impact-newsletter/archives/summer-2013/the-costs-of-the-iraq-and-afghanistan-wars

    https://research.hks.harvard.edu/publications/workingpapers/citation.aspx?PubId=8956

    Cost of Iraq War so far (close to ~$1.7 trillion USD):

    Click to access RL33110.pdf

    The issue is whether or not the US will reform when it is faced with dire consequences.

    Note that this does not include the latest war against ISIS.

    • I’ve looked at data like that about these two wars. I’m not sure what kind of figures I might have seen in the past. What I specifically remember seeing are the number of casualties. The number of non-combatant fatalities and injuries is mind-boggling.

      A soul-heaviness comes over me just to think about it. I’m not one to overly identify with my nationality, but this makes me feel ashamed for my country. We will never be able to undo that shame and the guilt that underlies it.

      The moral and psychological costs of such oppressive neo-imperialist war-mongering will certainly be far greater than any monetary costs. All of these costs will extend for generations into the future.

  3. It’s a $6 trillion dollar war.

    That works out to about ~$20,000 per person in the US; or $80,000 for a family of 4. That’s assuming that this does not prove to be an underestimate of course.

    Anyways, the author has a new piece about this:
    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/27/opinion/iraq-opinion-united-states-cost-of-war/index.html

    I suspect that a lot of things that the US has done will result in Blowback.

    Some have suggested that the fiercely anti-immigrant and racist attitudes of the right will blow up in the future into something unexpected and unpleasant.

    • I’m old enough to remember the last wave of right-wing terrorism in the US. The largest bombing before 9/11 came from a typical American angry white guy. There has also been decades of continuous terrorism from anti-abortion activists, from bombings to arsons, from kidnappings to assassinations. Left-wing activists in the US such as the so-called eco-terrorists never kill people, but the right-wing activists here sure are dangerous.

  4. I don’t think that the average American will care. People are not naturally curious I am afraid – most people anyways.

    In the patriotic rush after 9-11, few asked the hard questions as to the costs, whether there would be a blowback, and what the consequences of the War on Terror were.

    Those who were, often got attacked for their lack of patriotism.

    This article seems appropriate:
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/09/the-vindication-of-barbara-lee/380084/?single_page=true

    • I still would give the American public more credit than I’d give American politicians. It is true that 9 out of 10 Americans supported the initial military response after 9/11, but that still leaves 10% of Americans who didn’t support it.

      There are 435 congressmen. As one commenter pointed out, “10 percent of 435 congressmen is 43, not 1.”

      In a representative democracy, representatives don’t have to vote according to their constituents wishes on every issue, for representatives are supposed to use not just polling but also good judgment. Still, if we had a functioning representative democracy, representatives would vote in a way that represented their constituents more often than not.

      That obviously is not the case. Throw the public-private corporatist/neo-imperialist propaganda on top of that and no wonder we see the results we get.

      I suspect that the propaganda is as much directed toward politicians as toward the general public. Politicians are constantly being given filtered and framed info by their handlers. It takes a rare congressmen or president to be able to see outside of the media-propaganda bubble they are trapped in.

      Research has shown that politicians don’t even realize how much further to the left their constituents are. It’s possible that when many representatives vote against their constituents interests and positions that they aren’t even aware of the conflict. Those congressmen aren’t necessarily being intentionally evil in ignoring many of their constituents.

  5. To be honest, it’s both.

    Really there’s 2 factions now:
    1. The majority
    2. The very rich

    I’d put politicians in the second category, or at the very least, willing to sell their souls to get themselves into that second category.

    The first has been apathetic for a very long time. The idea behind democracy that people would rationally vote in their own best interest is not true. Part of the problem is propaganda and the fact that many are now struggling to get by, but another part of it seems to be apathy.

    The second just wants money and power. They don’t care who they are harming really. They seem willing to destroy everything to make themselves rich.

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